10.06.2021 HORROR OBSCURA VOL. 3!!!
ONCE AGAIN, MONSTER PARTY EXPLORES THE NOOKS AND CRANNIES OF TERROR!
JAMES GONIS, SHAWN SHERIDAN, LARRY STROTHE, and MATT WEINHOLD, dig deep into the film reference library that is their brains, to come up with another selection of infrequently found fright films! Grab yourself a pen and paper, or one of those new-fangled computin' machines, and prepare to make yet another "must watch" list, as we present... HORROR OBSCURA VOL. 3!!!
For this episode, the MONSTER PARTY gang decided to make this a strictly in-house affair. But, that doesn't mean you won't be getting the same avalanche of obscure titles you've come to expect from past episodes. We've got spine-tingling chicken horror, pervy haunted bath houses, monster and son pep talks, infernal fish dinners, and something that'll finally make you get off your damn phone!
IF THIS ONE DOESN'T BREAK YOUTUBE, TRY USING A HAMMER!
Key Topics Discussed
This episode is "Horror Obscura, Volume Three," a topic where the hosts recommend films that might make listeners say, "nope, never heard of that one".
The hosts go round-robin, each presenting their obscure film choices. Larry gives nicknames to his co-hosts, calling Shawn the "Silver Screen Sorcerer," James the "Moving Picture Philosopher," and Matt the "Celluloid Savant," while referring to himself as the "all American regular bubblegum Joe viewer".
The recommendations span several decades and international subgenres, including an '80s satanic slasher (Midnight) , a 1960s Japanese film (Hell) , an Iranian-based djinn movie (Under the Shadow) , a Canadian thriller about exploding telephones (Murder by Phone) , and an animated prequel to Train to Busan (Seoul Station).
Larry makes a recurring case for animated shorts as horror films, bringing up the "twisted" 1930 Fleischer cartoon Swing You Sinners and the 1943 Disney propaganda short Chicken Little. This leads to a running gag about films involving chickens.
After everyone shares their main picks, the group finishes with a "lightning round" of even more titles, including the 1980s zombie movie Flesh Eater , the 1970s "horror hag" film Hollywood Horror House , and the 1966 Hammer horror parody Carry On Screaming.
Timestamps
00:00:19 Introduction to Horror Obscura, Vol. 3 The hosts (Matt, Shawn, Larry, and James) kick off the episode, explaining that this installment of "Horror Obscura" will be a special edition featuring only the main hosts, with no guest.
00:04:39 Main Film Recommendations The hosts begin their main round-robin discussion. Each member takes a turn presenting an obscure horror film, with the group discussing the picks, which span many decades, subgenres, and countries.
01:40:44 Start of Lightning Round After concluding their main picks, the hosts move to a rapid-fire "lightning round," where each host quickly lists several additional obscure titles.
02:09:28 Listener Shout Outs & Promotions The hosts give shout-outs to listeners, including one who sent fan art. They also discuss their Blu-ray commentaries, merchandise, and the show's Patreon page.
02:17:35 Post-Episode Banter After the official sign-off, the hosts continue their conversation, discussing 1970s superhero TV shows , an infamous Robert Blake talk show appearance , and their plans for future episodes.
Resources/Links Mentioned
Films
Killer Condom (1996): Mentioned in the opening banter after a "condom" analogy, with the hosts wondering if such a movie exists.
Midnight (1982): Shawn's first main recommendation. He describes it as a "backwoods slash satanic slasher" written by John Russo.
Night of the Living Dead (1968): Mentioned as the film John Russo, the writer/director of Midnight, is famous for. It is later mentioned again as the film Bill Hinzman (director/star of Flesh Eater) was the first zombie in.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974): Used as a comparison for the "backwoods, creepy... vibe" of Midnight.
Martin (1978): Mentioned because actor John Amplas from Martin is also in Midnight.
Dawn of the Dead (1978): Mentioned as a film Tom Savini was working on around the same time he did effects for Midnight.
Friday the 13th (1980): Also mentioned as a film Savini was working on around the time of Midnight.
Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954): Larry jokingly suggests this as his pick before revealing his actual choice.
The Naked Prey (1965): Larry's first main recommendation. He argues it's an action-thriller that he considers a horror film because of its "horrifying" torture sequences.
Effects (1980): James's first main recommendation (also known as The Manipulator ). It's a low-budget film about a crew shooting a slasher movie and features several George Romero alumni.
Day of the Dead (1985): Mentioned as the film Joe Pilato (the star of Effects) is known for.
Creepshow (1982): Mentioned because John Harrison (who is in Effects) composed the music for it.
Dune (TV Version, 2000): Mentioned as a project John Harrison later directed.
Special Effects (1984): A Larry Cohen film mentioned by Matt as part of a subgenre of "effects" movies.
F/X (1986): A "pretty popular" movie starring Bryan Brown, also mentioned by Matt.
F/X2 (1991): The sequel to F/X, also mentioned by Matt.
Snuff (1976): Mentioned by Matt as another film in this subgenre.
Under the Shadow (2016): Matt's first main recommendation. A Persian-language film about a mother and daughter in Tehran during the Iran-Iraq War who are haunted by a djinn.
Wishmaster (1997): Mentioned by Matt as the "last good one" he remembers in the djinn subgenre.
Howl of the Devil (1988): Shawn's second main recommendation. A "lost Paul Naschy movie" where Naschy plays about 10 different roles , including a Frankenstein monster, a Phantom of the Opera type, and a hunchback.
Curse of the Cat People (1944): Used by Shawn as a comparison for the "kid's fantasy" element in Howl of the Devil.
Swing You Sinners! (1930): Larry's second main recommendation. A "freaking twisted" animated short from Fleischer Studios that follows the character Bimbo on a hellish journey after he tries to steal chickens.
Superman (1940s animated shorts): Mentioned as another classic work by the Fleischer brothers, who produced Swing You Sinners!.
A Haunted Turkish Bathhouse (1975): James's second main recommendation. A Japanese ghost story from Toei Studios that follows the trope of a wronged woman who comes back for revenge.
The House in Marsh Road (1960): Matt's second main recommendation (also known as Invisible Creature ). A low-budget British film with a "film noir plot" about a woman who inherits a house haunted by a protective poltergeist named Patrick.
Murder by Phone (1982): Shawn's third main recommendation (also known as Bells ). A Canadian thriller starring Richard Chamberlain about a "disgruntled phone company employee" who makes telephones "melt and explode".
Logan's Run (1976): Mentioned as another film directed by Michael Anderson, the director of Murder by Phone.
Scanners (1981): Used as a comparison for the deaths in Murder by Phone: "It's kind of like scanners, but with a phone".
Telefon (1977): Mentioned as a good double feature with Murder by Phone. It's a 70s thriller with Charles Bronson and Donald Pleasence about hypnotized sleeper agents.
The Vanishing (1988): Larry's third main recommendation. He specifies the "Dutch film" (Spoorloos), calling it a "great, chilling film".
The Vanishing (1993): The American remake is mentioned by Larry, who warns everyone not to see it because "they fucked up the ending".
Black Castle (1952): James's third main recommendation. A "Universal Gothic horror film" starring Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney Jr. that he feels "doesn't get talked about too often".
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman (1958): Mentioned as another film directed by Nathan Juran, the director of Black Castle.
How Green Was My Valley (1941): Mentioned because Nathan Juran was an Oscar-winning set designer for this film.
Double Date (2017): Matt's third main recommendation. A British horror-comedy about two sisters who try to find a "virgin sacrifice to bring back their dead dad".
They Live (1988): Matt compares an "excellent" and long fight scene in Double Date to the famous one in this film.
Hollywood Horror House (1970): Shawn's fourth main recommendation (also known as Savage Intruder ). He calls it the "tail end of the horror hag subgenre". It stars Miriam Hopkins and Gail Sondergaard.
Chicken Little (1943): Larry's fourth main recommendation. He specifies the Disney animated short film , arguing it's a "horror animated film" and propaganda piece about "the evils of mass hysteria" that has a "very un-Disney-like ending".
Chicken Little (2005): Mentioned as the later feature film that people might confuse with the 1943 short.
Messiah of Evil (1975): James's fourth main recommendation. An independent film directed by Gloria Katz and Willard Huyck. James describes it as a "fever dream" with "great set pieces" in a supermarket and movie theater.
American Graffiti (1973): Mentioned because the writers/directors of Messiah of Evil also wrote this film. It's also compared to Messiah of Evil because both take place over one night.
Howard the Duck (1986): Also mentioned as a film directed by Katz and Huyck.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984): Also mentioned as a film written by Katz and Huyck.
The Godfather Part II (1974): Mentioned because Marianna Hill, the star of Messiah of Evil, played Fredo's wife in it.
Schizoid (1980): Mentioned as another credit for Marianna Hill.
Blood Beach (1981): Mentioned as another credit for Marianna Hill.
Invasion of the Bee Girls (1973): Mentioned as a credit for Anitra Ford, one of the stars of Messiah of Evil.
Play It Again, Sam (1972): Mentioned as a credit for Joy Bang, one of the stars of Messiah of Evil.
Night of the Cobra Woman (1972): Mentioned as another credit for Joy Bang.
Salem's Lot (1979): The school bus scene is compared to the vibes in Messiah of Evil.
Let's Scare Jessica to Death (1971): Mentioned because Messiah of Evil has a "very much" similar "vibe to it".
Train to Busan (2016): Mentioned as one of Matt's "favorite zombie movies" and the film that his next pick is a prequel to.
Seoul Station (2016): Matt's fourth main recommendation. An "animated zombie film" that is a prequel to Train to Busan.
Peninsula (2020): Mentioned as the live-action sequel "in the same universe" as Train to Busan , which Matt says Seoul Station is "a million times better than".
Akira (1988): Used as a comparison for the animation style of Seoul Station.
Identity (2003): Shawn's fifth main recommendation. A "very twisty and tricky" thriller with a large ensemble cast about 10 people stranded at a motel who are killed off in descending room-number order.
The Woman in Black (1989): Larry's fifth main recommendation. He specifies the "British made for TV version" , which he saw after seeing the "so scary" play in London.
The Woman in Black (2012): The remake starring Daniel Radcliffe , which Larry suggests skipping in favor of the 1989 version.
The Reincarnation of Peter Proud (1975): James's fifth main recommendation. A 70s "metaphysical possession movie" about a man (Michael Sarazin) who has recurring dreams of being murdered by his wife (Margot Kidder) from a past life.
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972): Mentioned as a film directed by J. Lee Thompson, the director of Peter Proud.
Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973): Also mentioned as a film directed by J. Lee Thompson.
Happy Birthday to Me (1981): Also mentioned as a film directed by J. Lee Thompson.
Death Wish 4: Also mentioned as a film directed by J. Lee Thompson.
Se7en (1995): Mentioned because David Fincher and Andrew Kevin Walker (the writer of Se7en) have been talking about remaking Peter Proud.
Audrey Rose (1977): James's second pick for his "reincarnation double feature". A "bigger budget" film directed by Robert Wise starring Anthony Hopkins as a man who believes a young girl is the reincarnation of his daughter.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979): Mentioned as the film Robert Wise directed right after Audrey Rose.
The Possession of Joel Delaney (1972): Mentioned by James as another film in the 70s possession/reincarnation subgenre.
His House (2020): Matt's fifth main recommendation. A British film about a refugee couple from South Sudan who are granted asylum and placed in a "fucked up" house. They discover it's haunted by a "night witch" but cannot complain to their caseworker (Matt Smith) for fear of being deported.
Dark Tower (1987): Shawn's first "lightning round" pick. A film with a "troubled production" about an evil force in a high-rise office building, notable for its cast, including Jenny Agutter, Michael Moriarty, and Kevin McCarthy.
Shockwaves (1977): Mentioned because Dark Tower was started by director Ken Wiederhorn, who also directed this film.
Flesh Eater (1988): Shawn's second "lightning round" pick. A "shameless" film written, directed, and starring Bill Hinzman, the first zombie in Night of the Living Dead. He describes it as Hinzman's "own gory, nudity filled version of Night of the Living Dead".
I, Desire (1982): Shawn's third "lightning round" pick. An ABC TV movie starring David Naughton as a morgue attendant who discovers a female vampire/succubus.
An American Werewolf in London (1981): Mentioned as the film David Naughton was "fresh off of" when he starred in I, Desire.
Tales of Beatrix Potter (1971): Larry mentions he saw his next pick as a double bill with this "terrifying" film as a child.
Ruka (The Hand) (1965): Larry's first "lightning round" pick. An 18-minute "horrifying" stop-motion animated short by Jurij Trinka about a giant, powerful hand that oppresses a small artist.
The Hangman (1964): Larry's second "lightning round" pick. A "creepy, horrific, and very powerful" animated short narrated by Herschel Bernardi and based on a poem about a hangman who hangs the people of a town one by one as the other citizens do nothing.
Dead in Tombstone (2013): James's first "lightning round" pick. A "hyper-stylized" horror-Western starring Danny Trejo as an outlaw who makes a deal with Satan (Mickey Rourke) to return from the grave and get vengeance on his gang.
Count Dracula's Great Love (1973): James's second "lightning round" pick (or El Gran Amor de Count Dracula ). A Paul Naschy film where he plays a sympathetic Dracula who legitimately falls in love with one of the women stranded at his castle.
Hunchback of the Morgue (1973): Mentioned as another film directed by Javier Aguirre and starring Paul Naschy.
Hell (1960): Matt's first "lightning round" pick (also titled The Sinners of Hell). A Japanese horror film where the entire last part of the movie is a "graphic and horrible" depiction of the characters being tortured in hell.
Shin Kamen Rider Prologue (1992): Matt's second "lightning round" pick. A standalone entry in the Kamen Rider series that he considers a "full on horror movie" where the hero is an "insect-like super creature" and the violence is "horrific".
The Old Dark House (1963): Mentioned as the film the hosts did a commentary for , which led them to discuss actress Fenella Fielding.
Carry On Screaming! (1966): Matt's third "lightning round" pick. The 12th film in the British Carry On comedy series , which he calls a "flat out parody of Hammer horror films" and highlights for Fenella Fielding's performance as Valeria..
Carry On Spying (1964): Mentioned by Shawn as another one of the "best, strongest ones" in the Carry On series.
Reptilicus (1961): Mentioned during the listener shout-outs in reference to a fan's sketch.
Vengeance of She (1968): Mentioned as the first film the hosts did a Blu-ray commentary for.
The Alligator People (1959): Mentioned as the second film the hosts did a Blu-ray commentary for (replaced with a new audio commentary track with the 4K release in 2022, so if you bought the original, it’s a true collector’s item!).
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018): Mentioned as a "genius" film that "blows everybody away".
Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021): Referred to in the discussion about the multiverse.
Amadeus (1984): Larry mentions Robert Mitchum praising this film on David Letterman's show.
Leonard Part 6 (1987): Shawn mentions Bill Cosby telling audiences not to see this film.
Electra Glide in Blue (1973): Matt says he could talk to Robert Blake about this film for half an hour.
Blackfish (2013): Matt asks if anyone has seen this documentary.
Television
The Outer Limits (1963 TV Series): Mentioned because Marianna Hill, the star of Messiah of Evil, was in the episode "I, Robot".
The Price is Right: Mentioned as a credit for Anitra Ford, one of the stars of Messiah of Evil, who was a model on the show.
The Twilight Zone (1959 TV Series): Shawn suggests that the plot of his pick, Identity, "could have... been like a Twilight Zone episode".
Them (2021 TV Series): Matt suggests his pick His House would be a "great companion piece" to this series, which he describes as being about a Black family moving into an all-white neighborhood while also being haunted.
Kolchak: The Night Stalker (TV Series): Shawn says I, Desire feels like "a Night Stalker episode done in the 80s".
Kamen Rider (Series): Matt's pick, Shin Kamen Rider Prologue, is an entry in this long-running Japanese series.
Doctor Who: Mentioned because Jon Pertwee, the "Third Doctor Who," has a small part in Carry On Screaming!.
The Addams Family (1964 TV Series): The film Carry On Screaming! is compared to this show, and the hosts discuss a "Mind if I smoke?" joke that appeared in both.
Batman (1960s TV Series): Mentioned as being represented on a 1970s superheroes poster in Larry's office, with art of Adam West and Burt Ward.
Isis (1975 TV Series): Also mentioned as being on Larry's 70s superheroes poster.
Dr. Shrinker (1976 TV Series): Shawn guesses that a character with a hook on Larry's poster might be from this show.
The Incredible Hulk (1977 TV Series): The show is brought up during the post-episode banter while discussing Larry's 70s superhero poster. This leads to a longer discussion where Shawn defends it as "a very well-made show," while Matt jokes about "slow motion Lou Ferrigno".
The Fugitive: Shawn compares the plot of The Incredible Hulk to this show, saying, "It's the fugitive over and over and over again with the Hulk".
The $6 Million Man: Matt admits during the post-show banter that he "thought that the $6 million man was, for the most part, a huge snore".
The Amazing Spider-Man (1978 TV Series): Mentioned as a 70s Marvel show that was "way better" than The Hulk (this is a sarcastic correction, the hosts agree The Hulk was better).
WandaVision: Mentioned in a discussion about the multiverse, in reference to the show bringing in an actor from a different property to play Wanda's brother.
Kids in the Hall: Larry references a sketch from this show about a "hip," "cool" 45-year-old man with long hair.
Talk Shows (David Letterman / Johnny Carson): Mentioned in the post-show banter when Larry recalls Robert Mitchum on David Letterman's show and Robert Blake infamously telling the audience not to see his new movie while on Carson.
The Flintstones: Larry sings a song ("Aye, aye, aye, Wilma") from an episode and calls himself "the Flintstone guy".
Monster High: Discussed in the post-show banter when Larry shows off a Monster High blanket and talks about his daughter's interest in the dolls and series.
Books & Other Media
Fangoria (Magazine): Shawn mentions having an issue of this magazine with an interview promoting the movie Midnight.
archive.org (The Internet Archive): Matt mentions this website as a good place to find free content. He later notes he found Carry On Screaming! there.
Universal Horror series (Blu-ray): James mentions he learned of Black Castle because it was released as "part of the Universal Horror series". Volume 2 Volume 3 Volume 4
Film Comment (Magazine): James notes this magazine "championed" Messiah of Evil.
Mind if I Smoke? (Autobiography): Matt mentions this is the title of Fenella Fielding's autobiography, based on her famous line from Carry On Screaming!.
Famous Monsters of Filmland (Magazine): Matt mentions growing up seeing shots of the "Oddbod" monsters from Carry On Screaming! in this magazine.
Frank and Son's (Collectible Show): Mentioned in the post-show banter as a weekly collectibles show the hosts plan to visit.
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